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thebixman

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I recently purchased a Cessna 172H, taking possession in the next 1-2 weeks. Besides browsing a 50 year old service manual and POH, do you have any recommended books, resources etc. for Cessna ownership? Best maintenance practices, best operating practices, what to look out for etc.?
 
100LL Avgas!!! Too much lead in the fuel, if you lean properly and judiciously, run projected reach plugs and change oil often you can minimize the side effects.

I flew behind the 0-300D for about 19 years...my H model has always been fun to own... except for too much lead crud...used a mogas STC for Swift unleaded and mogas to mitigate the lead.

Congratulations on your purchase and best of luck to ya.
 
thebixman" said:
I recently purchased a Cessna 172H, taking possession in the next 1-2 weeks. Besides browsing a 50 year old service manual and POH, do you have any recommended books, resources etc. for Cessna ownership? Best maintenance practices, best operating practices, what to look out for etc.?


I think there is a length limit for posts here, so do not expect a full list. I would say, hmmmm, just ask whenever you have a question at http://www.cessna172club.com and you will get help. Over the years you will collect quite some data memory hills for your bird ;-).

Have fun and enjoy your Hotel, as I do mine.
 
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I bought my H model back in October and it has been a learning process for me as well having come from renting and flying newer S models for the past 16 years. Here is what i can advise based on my own experience.

Lean - I was always good at leaning but the lead fouling on these O300 engines is a thing even with my leaning. I now use TCP in my fuel as an additive. It is a lead scavenging agent that seems to help a lot. I also changed out the old champion spark plugs for ones that are less prone to fouling. UREM37BY made by Tempest has the extended electrode. There is a slim wire one but sparkplugs for airplanes are crazy expensive so i went with the tempest ones. The new plugs made a noticeable difference in the starting and performance of my plane. YMMV

Getting used to the MPH for me was a change since i grew up flying in KTS. Try to force yourself to really think about your speeds, especially in the pattern. I found myself still trying to fly my old KTS numbers on my MPH gauges and my landings were horrible until i made the mental shift. Plus, the 145 horsepower engine takes some getting used to if you have been flying anything with more power (like the 180 Horse i was flying) Also, i had to get used to carb heat and priming again...not a big deal, but the S models were fuel injected so i hadnt had to do that in a long while.

I got a fresh weight and balance on mine. It wasn't terribly expensive and it gives me peace of mind knowing what my real useful load is. I realized there were a lot of additions and subtractions since 1966 to my plane and i just didnt feel comfortable not knowing what the real weight was with all the hands that had been touching the plane and the weight and balances over the years. Not something you have to do obviously, but knowing that i wanted to know my true limits on load, i wanted a new one i could confidently trust.

I hadn't had to deal with all the regulatory and maintenance issues myself since the rental place always took care of it. I spent a good deal of time building myself an excel file to keep track of all the things i needed to know. You are in Canada so cant speak to your regulations up there, but down here in the states, you have to keep the transponder checked, ELT batteries changed, Pitot Static if it is IFR, annual, oil changes, rotate spark plugs etc etc. The list goes on and on of things you must do and things you should do. I made the excel file to help me keep track of when things were done by me or an A&P. I also put up a dry erase board in my hangar to help me keep track of things as well and make it visible every time i go out there to keep it fresh on my mind. I also spent time going through the logs to find out when things had been done....when was the battery replaced last, tires replaced last and added those to the excel file for quick reference. This may be overkill, but I feel like having really gone through the logs and done that i have a better overall picture of my planes condition. I also took a minute (or many minutes actually) to go ahead and scan my airplane log books. I had heard stories of people (mechanics) losing logbooks and i didnt want to chance that so I scanned them into my computer and i keep a copy on my phone if i need a quick reference at the airport. I also bought the brightest folder i could find to keep my logbooks in. This thing is Hot Pink! I figured it might help people that are working on my plane not overlook a drab colored logbook lying around. Hot pink folder is hard to overlook or lose.

One more thing, i was initially scared of the 40 degrees of flaps. I had never used those before. I have found that that are like speed brakes LOL. Sometimes if I am high on final, if i kick in 40 degrees, i feel like i can almost point the nose straight down and not pick up speed. It is like deploying barn doors! That being said, i dont use them all the time, but dont be afraid of them, they can be useful at times.

Those are just a few of the things i personally did that may help you get your hands around this new adventure. Have fun with the H model, i am enjoying mine!
 
thebixman" said:
I recently purchased a Cessna 172H, taking possession in the next 1-2 weeks. Besides browsing a 50 year old service manual and POH, do you have any recommended books, resources etc. for Cessna ownership? Best maintenance practices, best operating practices, what to look out for etc.?


thevbixman - Congrats on your purchase and welcome to the club! Looks like you're already getting great advice now. As for any future concerns, you're certainly in the right place for those answers as Flubber mentions. Again, congrats and welcome!
 
Welcome to the club and congrats on the new plane!

I keep this clipboard in the rear passenger side seat pocket. I fill it out every time I land at the end of the day.

I also make note of everything that is done to the airplane whether by me or my IA mechanic. I still have log books, but this is my bible.

Makes it easy to go back quick and look at when maintenance was done last. This page is right after a new engine install.
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I find it amazing you guys are not required to keep a journey log.

They are a fantastic addition to the aircraft logs and can tell you so much more than just the airframe log.

Nice job Challenger.
 
I find it amazing you guys are not required to keep a journey log.

They are a fantastic addition to the aircraft logs and can tell you so much more than just the airframe log.

Nice job Challenger.
 
Build a “Information Swiss Army Knife” by keeping important docs in Dropbox or similar platform you can access from your cell phone.

I have either scanned or downloaded various documents and files to my Dropbox which I can access from my cell phone. This includes my aircraft and engine logbooks, maint and parts manuals, various weight and balance profiles (eg full fuel, with and without passengers, luggage, rear seats) manuals for aftermarket parts installed in your plane (voltage regulator, altitude encoder, gps, radios, engine monitor, ELT, STC Item), insurance docs, radio permits, TSA docs if flying internationally, Avionics Wiring Diagrams.

I’ve had a few occasions where I was on a long cross country flight and had an issue come up. Having access to this info immediately on my cell phone helped me troubleshoot an issue. Be sure to make sure this info is not just accessible but actually downloaded on your phone or tablet, so you can access it without needing internet. Basically, if there is any document that I’ve obtained or downloaded regarding my bird, I will copy it to my Dropbox.

Of course, you’ll keep your hard copy of this stuff at home or hanger but it’s great to have it at your finger tips.

If you don’t already have it you can order a CD From the FAA that has all the docs on your plane that they have . It’s been a few years but I think it cost $5.00.
 
Thanks Skyhawk3.

It is coming up on 3 years since I bought my 172.

I was very lucky as I rented my plane from a friend for 6 months before I bought it from him. I also helped with the annual before making an offer on the plane. So I really got a lot of test flying in and tore the plane pretty far apart for the annual. The AP/IA who has been doing the annual for the previous owner helped do it. He was kind of stunned when he walked into my hangar because I had the plane totally apart, so far apart the AP seen parts of my plane he has never seen before!! LOL Of course it was a pre buy inspection to me. The best part was the previous owner paid for the annual because he still owned it then.

Before I bought it I ordered the 10 dollar CD from the FAA. You need this CD before you buy your plane to check for liens. Plus it is interesting to check on previous owners and 337s filed for your plane. Maybe a previous mechanic did not file a 337 with the FAA. You or someone needs to check that stuff out. Here is a link.
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Then my buddy gave me a factory service manual for my plane. I have spent a few hours reading it before I did maintenance to my plane. Just because it is 40 years old does not make it any less important.
The parts manual is on line and easy to find and use. Here is a link to my parts manual.
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Then like mentioned above this site is one of the best resources, I have learned so much here. I would read and memorize that POH, not just "browse" it.
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All pictures are from the last 2-3 weeks. Love my 172.
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T&G @ KRIG at sundown during the winter.

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I agree. In my 172G, I use 25% avgas and 75% non-ethanol mogas. I have a transfer tank in my pickup with a double water separator filter. My plane likes it. I never get carbon fouling and I borescope the cylinders with each annual and they look great. I know mogas is a controversial topic, so I'll just state my opinion and leave it there. I just know what works for me.
 
I have used Non-Ethanol, well filtered auto gas in a number of planes and do not have any issue with it as long as it will not be sitting in the plane unused for a long period of time. Av Fuel can last for a much greater time.

Bob
 
Exactly! I used pretty much the same "mixture" when operating locally.

My A&P/IA said that 100LL had roughly 4 times the lead additive that 80/87 Avgas had and since the 0-300 was made for 80/87 he was OK with my fuel mix as long as I had the STC.

It worked well for keeping the potential lead fouling problem at bay.
 
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